i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened and in the end, you've got to include gaza. you've got to have both parts of the palestinians. that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do is bring hamas and fatah closer together. so i think as i said, we're not going to address them directly but through egypt, i think they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what they say publicly is often different than what they may say to you privately off camera. we will talk about that with ben wedeman next. also more with anne-marie. fuad, appreciate you being on. jill as well. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'